Hamed Aleaziz, a New York Times reporter on immigration policy, joins experts like Ahilan Arulanantham from UCLA Law and Francisco Ugarte, managing attorney with the SF Public Defender's office. They unpack the implications of a recent threat directed at California's sanctuary policies by Trump ally Stephen Miller’s organization. Discussions include potential legal repercussions for state officials, strategies for resisting federal deportation efforts, and the promising response from local jurisdictions in defending immigrant rights and challenging federal overreach.