Frances Schwartzkopff, a Copenhagen-based reporter covering ESG regulations, and Saijel Kishan, a New York-based reporter focused on ESG investing, tackle the current backlash against Environmental, Social, and Governance initiatives. They discuss the EU's rollback on ESG legislation and why many companies are quietly maintaining their ESG strategies despite skepticism. The conversation highlights the clash between U.S. and EU regulations, reflecting on the evolution of ESG frameworks and the financial implications for businesses navigating this complex landscape.