Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and Former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley discuss the 2024 presidential race, abortion access, and the need for change in politics. They explore the complexity of the abortion issue, debate over a ban, and potential consequences. Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders talks about abortion laws in Arkansas and the importance of postpartum care. The podcast also covers border security, immigration policies, and the challenges faced by Nikki Haley in the New Hampshire primary.