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Florian Brand
Open model analyst and featured guest on this episode, providing detailed analysis, tiering, and commentary on open models, labs, and ecosystem dynamics.
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Dec 18, 2025
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Open models: Hot or Not with Nathan Lambert & Florian Brand
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Florian Brand, an open model analyst, joins Nathan Lambert for a fiery debate on the evolving landscape of open models. They dive into which labs have gained or lost momentum, tackling the fall of Llama and Huawei's controversial model repackaging. The duo explores the significance of big tech involvement, evaluates chaotic open releases, and predicts the future of GPT-OSS. They also discuss the balance between American and Chinese models, highlighting the rise of underdogs and the impact of coding performance on adoption.
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