Ferris Jaber

Joining the discussion is Ferris Jaber, a contributing writer for The New York Times magazine, specializing in nature and science. They delve into the captivating story of Hvaldimir, a beluga whale that became an unexpected celebrity in Norway. The conversation explores the whale's mysterious origins, potentially linked to the Russian Navy, and the ethical dilemmas of his interaction with humans. Advocates strive to secure Hvaldimir's welfare while facing the complexities of rewilding and captivity, highlighting a larger debate on cetacean protection.

Ferris Jaber, a science journalist focused on animal intelligence, joins to explore the surprising social behaviors of octopuses. He shares insights on how these typically solitary creatures can form bonds with humans, drawing from personal stories and the acclaimed documentary 'My Octopus Teacher.' The discussion raises intriguing questions about the emotional depth of octopuses and challenges listeners to reconsider the nature of interspecies connections. Jaber emphasizes the need for a human perspective shift to truly appreciate these intelligent beings.