In this enlightening discussion, Fabien Roger, a researcher focused on AI alignment, examines the intriguing capabilities of reasoning models like DeepSeek R1. He shares how his perception of AI scheming has evolved, addressing misconceptions from 2022. Fabien explores why these models lack scheming tendencies despite having the tools for it, emphasizing human-like pretraining biases. He also highlights pressures against scheming, predicts future developments, and calls for cautious optimism regarding superintelligence, all while acknowledging lingering concerns.