Evan Lovely, co-founder of Knapsack, returns to celebrate five years of innovation in design systems with Chris Strahl. They reflect on their journey from agency work to building a SaaS platform, sharing personal anecdotes and lessons learned. The importance of composability and constraints in design is highlighted, with insights on how AI is transforming the industry. They discuss recent shifts in design tools, the balance between flexibility and brand integrity, and the evolving role of community and empathy in the design ecosystem.