Sabrina B. Little, a trail running champion and philosopher focusing on virtue ethics, joins Steve Fuller, a postmodern philosopher, and Etienne Helmer, an expert in ancient Greek economics. They discuss how Plato's ideas can elevate modern running, linking physical activity to moral growth. The conversation delves into the unseen struggles of athletes and parallels between Socrates and Jesus, highlighting the nuances of their legacies. They also explore how ancient philosophies can reshape contemporary economic and ethical thinking, advocating for a re-examination of modern practices.