Erik Johnson, a leader in value-based care at Optum Advisory, joins Clare Wirth, an Advisory Board expert, to dive into the shifting landscape of healthcare payment transformation. They discuss the complexities and rising adoption of value-based care, particularly post-pandemic. The conversation explores the role of specialty care, the impact of Medicare Advantage, and the importance of bundling arrangements. They also highlight emerging trends in provider attitudes toward risk and the optimistic financial outcomes seen in VBC models.