Discussion on the play 'Cyrano de Bergerac' with focus on love triangle, portrayal of Cyrano's looks, spiritual/body dichotomy, success, and pride. Guest Eric Robert Morse adds depth with a debate on Pride and the character of Cyrano.

A Catholic and an atheist discuss building an ideal society, how they overcome differences in thinking. Exploring symbolism in William Blake's 'Jerusalem' and biblical mysteries. Delving into the concept of utopia, personal growth, and societal ideals. The conversation covers self-rule, governance, and the role of government in society. Exploring human sexuality, relationships, and the impact of suppressing natural desires.