Eric Goode and Jeremy McBride, Emmy-nominated filmmakers known for their work on 'Tiger King' and 'Chimp Crazy', dive into the fascinating, often troubling world of exotic pet ownership. They discuss the ethical dilemmas surrounding captivity, exploring the complex bonds between humans and animals, particularly chimpanzees. Highlighting bizarre stories from 'Tiger King', they reflect on the absurdity of urban animals and the impact of media on public perception. The conversation also touches on the challenges of documentary filmmaking in this chaotic landscape.

Alan Cumming, a key figure in the search for a missing chimp, shares his fascinating insights on the interplay of human and animal relationships. Tonia Haddix's eccentric story adds depth, exploring themes of obsession and beauty standards in the context of exotic animal ownership. Eric Goode, the series director, discusses the ethical complexities of using a proxy director in documentary filmmaking, raising questions about authenticity. The conversation dives into the nuances of PETA's portrayal and the emotional intricacies faced by individuals in the exotic animal trade.