Emma Goldberg, a business reporter for The New York Times, discusses the challenges and pitfalls of hybrid work in the office culture. Topics include the stress and uncertainty faced by workers, the impact on relationships and career advancement, and the mixed results of companies' efforts to improve the hybrid work experience.

For the past decade, San Francisco has worked hard to turn its downtown into a vibrant hub, providing a model that other cities in the United States looked to emulate.In the wake of the pandemic, however, many buildings and offices in the center of the city have remained empty.What went wrong?Guest: Conor Dougherty, an economics reporter at The New York Times and author of “Golden Gates: The Housing Crisis and a Reckoning for the American Dream.”; and Emma Goldberg, a reporter covering the future of work for The Times. Background reading: What lessons does San Francisco have for the future of downtowns in America?For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

Emma Goldberg, a Business features writer for The New York Times, and Andra Goethe, a finance professor at the University of Utah, delve into the evolving landscape of remote work. They discuss the tension between corporate mandates and employee preferences, noting Amazon's push for a full office return by 2025. The conversation highlights the impact of hybrid models on workplace culture and productivity, as well as the unintended consequences of increased remote work on urban living and labor dynamics.