Tess Owen, a freelance journalist known for her impactful reporting on the January 6th riots, and Ellie Reeve, CNN correspondent and author of *Black Pill*, dive deep into the chilling developments surrounding January 6. They discuss the unsettling environment of the D.C. jail's 'Patriot Wing' as inmates await potential pardons. The conversation also highlights the troubling rise of far-right extremism, the mainstreaming of alt-right ideologies, and the cultural dynamics within extremist groups, reflecting on their growing influence in today's political landscape.
