Libby Brooks, Scotland correspondent for The Guardian, and Ellie Gomisall, a trans rights activist with the Green Scottish Party, delve into a controversial UK Supreme Court ruling defining 'woman' based on biological attributes. They discuss the ruling's implications for single-sex spaces, the ongoing debates between women’s rights and trans rights, and the challenges faced by organizations like RISE that support domestic abuse survivors. The conversation sheds light on societal tensions regarding gender identity and highlights the complexities of advocacy and legal interpretations in this evolving landscape.