In this engaging discussion, Ellen Lee, a senior staff writer at Wirecutter specializing in kid gear, and Dr. Devorah Heitner, a media and technology expert, tackle the pressing question of when to give your child a phone. They share practical advice on assessing a child's readiness and fostering healthy tech habits. The duo also highlights various phone options, including kid-friendly smartwatches and parental control apps. With insights into the digital landscape, they emphasize the importance of open communication and setting boundaries for young users.

MacKenzie Chung Fegan, lead restaurant critic at The San Francisco Chronicle, talks about unique food-related gifts. Ellen Lee from Wirecutter shares creative strategies for selecting gifts for kids and teens. Kathy Bailey, co-owner of Heath Ceramics, emphasizes the joy of handmade gifts and supporting local artisans. They discuss the evolution of gift ideas, highlighting memorable experiences over material items. The conversation also touches on personal anecdotes and the importance of meaningful connections through thoughtful gift-giving.