Ellen Jovin

Ellen Jovin, author of "Rebel with a Clause" and creator of a unique grammar table project, shares her journey of connecting with people about language across the U.S. Brandt Johnson, her filmmaker husband, discusses the documentary inspired by this endeavor. They explore how grammar conversations can build emotional connections and recount heartwarming moments from their travels. The challenges and joys of filmmaking, especially during the pandemic, bring a relatable touch to their storytelling, making grammar feel both fun and essential.

Dr. Marisa Franco, a psychologist and friendship expert with work featured in major publications, discusses the importance of friendships for mental health. She shares strategies to form deeper connections in adulthood and emphasizes vulnerability as key to building trust. Ellen Jovin, a polyglot and author, delves into the quirks of English, clarifying common confusions around 'further' versus 'farther' and the usage of 'lie' versus 'lay.' Both guests provide insightful tips for navigating relationships and mastering language nuances.