Join Dr. Robert Kiltz, a leading voice in the keto carnivore movement and founder of CNY Fertility, for a fiery debate with host Ellen Fisher. They explore the polarizing worlds of vegan and carnivore diets, examining personal health journeys and the conflicts between scientific evidence and personal anecdotes. Dive into the historical context of dietary fats, the misleading narratives in nutrition science, and the complexities of dietary guidelines. This spirited discussion challenges listeners to rethink their dietary beliefs and make informed health choices.