In this thought-provoking discussion, guests Ella Creamer, a Books reporter at The Guardian, AJ West, a best-selling historical fiction author, and Kate Moss, acclaimed author and founder of the Women's Prize for Fiction, delve into the ethical storm surrounding Meta's use of copyrighted materials for AI training. They reveal the emotional and financial toll on authors, share insights from protests against copyright violations, and explore the urgent need for stronger protections in the publishing industry. The conversation raises critical questions about creativity and accountability in the digital age.