Journalist Elizabeth Lopatto, known for her keen insights into tech and finance, discusses her experiences covering Sam Bankman-Fried's trial. She compares it to Elizabeth Holmes' case, highlighting their contrasting courtroom strategies. The conversation delves into how millennials approach fraud and financial persuasion, the role of marketing in tech, and the emotional complexities faced by those involved in high-stakes trials. Elizabeth offers a unique perspective on the implications for trust in the financial system and the future of the tech industry.