Elizabeth Dearden-Williams, a Cambridge graduate pursuing her master's, dives into the fascinating world of Carl von Clausewitz. They tackle the intricate relationship between war and politics, using insights from contemporary conflicts like Ukraine. The conversation highlights how public opinion shapes military actions and the challenges of unity in diverse societies facing existential threats. They also explore historical military theories impacting modern American foreign policy and analyze the Cuban Missile Crisis through a game theory lens, revealing the unpredictable nature of strategy.