In this insightful conversation, rising star Chappell Roan navigates the tangled web of fame alongside musician Eliza McLamb. They dive into the impact of social media on artist-fan relationships and discuss the challenges queer artists face in the spotlight. The duo reflects on personal boundaries and the relentless scrutiny of celebrity life, emphasizing the need for healthier fan interactions. They also touch on the cycle of public outrage against celebrities, illuminating the complexities of beauty standards and society's expectations.