In this lively discussion, Alex Sorin, a debater known for his deep theological insights, and Elijah Yassi, a Roman Catholic advocate, dive into the complexities of papal authority. They debate papal minimalism versus maximalism, challenging each other's views on infallibility and the historical context of Vatican I. The conversation highlights the consequences of limited infallibility and explores Augustine's notions of original sin. With listeners calling in, the tensions of faith, tradition, and modern interpretation spark an engaging dialogue.