Elf Lyons, a comedian known for her clowning style and award-winning shows, joins Andrew O'Neill, a stand-up comedian and author of 'The History of Heavy Metal'. They dive into the chaotic world of clown training, highlighting its quirky anecdotes and the ethics of clowning. The conversation shifts to the amusing rivalry between philosophers Hegel and Schopenhauer, emphasizing their contrasting views. They also explore Andrew Carnegie's whimsical idea of using dinosaurs for world peace, revealing the humorous contradictions in his optimism.
