In this insightful conversation, guests Eun Sun Kim, the trailblazing music director and first female conductor of a major U.S. opera company, and Matthew Shilvock, general director of the San Francisco Opera, open up about the passion that drives their productions. Elena Park, a documentary filmmaker, shares a behind-the-scenes look at Kim's interpretation of 'Lohengrin.' The trio discusses the emotional challenges of staging Wagnerian operas, the importance of collaboration in storytelling, and the vibrant training experiences for emerging artists.