In this insightful discussion, science writer Elena Bridgers dives into the complexities of modern motherhood, challenging the myths of traditional caregiving. She argues that historical parenting models emphasize community support, which is crucial today to prevent burnout. Bridgers highlights how modern expectations can lead to guilt and the importance of leisure for mothers' well-being. The conversation explores the autonomy of children in hunter-gatherer societies and suggests that the focus should shift towards nurturing maternal mental health alongside kids' needs.