Joe Romm, a clean energy policy expert and author, discusses the shifting narrative around hydrogen's role in clean energy. Eleanor Smith, a community organizer for the Navajo Nation, shares her concerns about a proposed hydrogen pipeline and its historical context of fossil fuel exploitation. Hilary Lewis, who focuses on green steel solutions, explains how hydrogen can revolutionize steel production while navigating current challenges. Together, they explore hydrogen's efficiency, competition from electrification, and its niche applications in industry.