

Edwin Chen
Founder and CEO of Surge AI, a company that scaled to $1BN+ in revenue with zero external funding.
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Jul 21, 2025 • 1h 6min
20VC: Scaling to $1BN+ in Revenue with No Funding: Surge AI | The Most Insane Scaling Story in Tech |
Edwin Chen, Founder and CEO of Surge AI, shares his remarkable journey of scaling a billion-dollar company without external funding. He critiques the inefficiencies in big tech and advocates for a lean, meeting-free work culture. The conversation highlights the value of spotting '100x engineers' and maintaining high standards in AI training. Edwin also discusses the future of AGI, the challenges of synthetic data, and the critical role of data quality in innovation. His insights underscore the intensity required to build a successful tech venture.

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Jul 24, 2025 • 33min
The Power of Quality Human Data with SurgeAI Founder and CEO Edwin Chen
Edwin Chen, Founder and CEO of SurgeAI, emphasizes the critical role of high-quality human data in AI training. He shares why he chose to bootstrap his company instead of pursuing venture capital to maintain authenticity. Discussion includes the challenges of scalable oversight and the importance of human evaluation to ensure data quality. Edwin also speculates on the implications of Meta's investment in Scale AI for SurgeAI and ponders whether an underdog can rival giants like OpenAI and Anthropic in the evolving AI landscape.