This conversation features Charles Duncan, a veteran airline leader, and Eamonn Brennan, the former Director General of Eurocontrol. They humorously tackle collegiate rivalries before diving into serious aviation issues. Discover insights on airline competition, strategies by JetBlue, and the need for modernization in air traffic control. Eamonn highlights challenges and reforms in European airspace management, while a debate on pilot training practices raises questions about airmanship versus flight hours. It's an engaging mix of wit and industry knowledge!