Tigran Gambaryan, a finance executive still detained in Nigeria, shares insights into the implications of such arrests on cryptocurrency regulation. Pavel Durov, co-founder of Telegram, discusses his recent detention in France and the impact of EU regulations on tech companies. The conversation touches on Trump's bizarre DeFi initiative and raises questions about major tech firms potentially exiting the EU. With a spotlight on the challenges surrounding free speech and government oversight, this discussion is a wild ride through the intersection of tech, finance, and politics.