DT Maxx, a writer from The New Yorker and an eyewitness to dire wolves, joins Robert Klitzman, a Columbia professor and bioethics expert, to discuss the controversial claim of reviving these ancient creatures. They delve into the science behind genetic modification, weighing the ambitious technological leaps against ethical concerns. The conversation highlights the potential risks of de-extinction and questions humanity's role in nature. Listeners are left pondering the moral implications of bringing back lost species in a changing ecosystem.