Drew Hayden Taylor, an Anishnaabe playwright and humorist, along with Kim TallBear, a Sisseton-Wahpeton Oyate scholar, delve into the shocking revelation that acclaimed author Thomas King isn't Indigenous. They discuss the impact on Indigenous communities, feelings of betrayal, and why such claims recur. Taylor highlights King's humor and mentorship while arguing his work, though valuable, should be reclassified. TallBear emphasizes the need for stricter verification of Indigenous identities in academia, hinting that more pretendian cases might arise.