Drew DeVault, a systems programming language developer, joins the show to talk about Hare, a 100 year language. They discuss the language's goals of simplicity, stability, and robustness, the importance of open source, fostering a culture of stability, and even make a random detour to talk about making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

Redis re-licensing prompts forks like Redict, advocacy for community-built software, DuckDB replacing jq, a developer succeeding despite self-perceived limitations, and insights on the web developer job market.

Guests Drew DeVault, Matthew Miller, Paul Gross, Anton Zhiyanov, and Baldur Bjarnason discuss Redis' re-licensing, community-built software, DuckDB as the new jq, challenges for developers, and the web developer job market. Topics include forking, Redict, Garnet, AI's impact on job market, and starting a business.

Guests discuss Redis' re-licensing leading to Redict fork, importance of community-built software, DuckDB vs jq, developer's success despite limitations, and insights on the web developer job market challenges.

Drew DeVault, creator of the Hare programming language, discusses the language's aim to be a 100-year language, the importance of open source, fostering cultural stability, and crafting effective interfaces in systems programming. They also touch on topics such as modern developer tools, Postgres, creating a stable programming language, and the challenges of attracting users who prioritize stability over new features.