Dr. Niki, a science communicator and biology expert, joins the conversation to delve into fascinating topics. They examine the ethics of de-extinction, specifically regarding dire wolves, questioning the motives behind such cloning efforts. The discussion contrasts dire wolves and modern wolves, exploring their genetics and the implications of gene editing. They also critique Colossal Biosciences' claims, highlighting the gap between corporate messaging and scientific reality. Additionally, insights into the volatility of tech markets add a timely perspective to the tech landscape.