Professor Gwyn Bevan, a governance expert and author, and Dr. Kate Bayliss, an economist specializing in the UK water industry, tackle the scandal of sewage pollution due to illegal dumping by privatized water companies. They discuss the dire need for investment in wastewater management and the health risks of untreated discharges. The guests critique the financial dilemma posed by privatization, calling for greater accountability and potentially re-nationalizing water services to ensure better public health and environmental protection.