Dr. Elaine Smith, a Clinical Psychologist and Business Wellbeing Consultant, joins the discussion on compassionate leadership. She dives into Asda's controversial bonus cuts and their effects on morale, contrasting it with the tech industry's flexible approaches. The conversation shifts to the importance of vulnerability in leadership, revealing how addressing mental health can enhance workplace connections. Elaine also offers insights on transitioning from friend to boss, emphasizing empathy and communication for effective managerial relationships.