Dr. Douglas Gabriel, an author and researcher with a diverse background as a NSA cryptologist and exorcist, delves into the profound teachings of Rudolf Steiner. He explores the transition from Jesuit to Waldorf education, discussing the relevance of Steiner's cosmological concepts today. The conversation unpacks spiritual science, immortality, and the heart's role in human development. Gabriel critiques modern materialism, emphasizing the importance of spiritual understanding in our cosmic journey. Additionally, he connects Steiner's ideas to significant cultural influences, including literature and film.