Erik Davis, a writer exploring the intersection of technology and mysticism, and Doug Skinner, a musician and long-time friend of John Keel, dive deep into the world of Keel, famed for his works on the supernatural. They unpack Keel's concept of 'ultra-terrestrials' and its implications. The duo reflects on Keel's legacy in paranormal research, challenging mainstream narratives and the influence of our technology on belief. They also share anecdotes about the unique community at the Lily Dale Symposium, blending skepticism, creativity, and the peculiarities of existence.