Don Lamb, Pastor of LifeGate in Pennsylvania, passionately advocates for his church's political engagement, rejecting the notion of a passive faith. Joining him are Najib Aminy, a reporter who investigated LifeGate's political activities, and Kiera Butler from Mother Jones, who sheds light on the New Apostolic Reformation. They explore how political activism is entwined with faith and the implications of NAR's rise, aiming to empower Christians to influence governance, particularly in local elections. The conversation uncovers the tensions between spirituality and political action.