A conversation with my friends Scott Warr and Don Freeman, hosts of the Trail Runner Nation podcast. TRN is trail running's #1 podcast in the world, with more than 600 episodes recorded. We break down the barriers for road runners to get into trail running and advice on how to improve as a trail runner and ultra runner. Watch the full YouTube interview at: https://youtu.be/2k9O2DF5c4Y  CHAPTERS  00:00 Intros 3:56 Welcome Scott and Don! About Trail Runner Nation. 8:22 Starting out running, transition to trail 14:42 Early lessons in trail running 21:39 Why people run mostly road vs trails 23:12 Community 29:02 Kids ‘n’ trails, “one is greater than none” 30:11 Running gear & safety considerations 34:18 Things you can’t run without… 39:32 Running identity 45:17 Small habits, motivation 47:07 Common lessons from podcast guests 52:40 Recommendations to get into trail running 58:40 Don’s 200-mile races 1:06:35 Crewing for trail / ultra races 1:08:48 Where to find Don and Scott 1:09:30 Closing thoughts Subscribe on YouTube and hit the bell to see new videos: https://bit.ly/Flo-YT   Thanks to LMNT for sponsoring this podcast! Head to https://DrinkLMNT.com/FLO to get your free sample pack with any purchase.   Scott Warr and Don Freeman are experienced non-elite trail runners, located in Northern California. Trail Runner Nation is one of trail running’s oldest and most downloaded podcasts. I love the TRN podcast and have been listening to them for 10+ years. This is how I initially discovered Dr Phil Maffetone, Dr Mark Cucuzzella and several others.  This conversation was a blast to record because Scott and Don have stories for days from their trail and ultra adventures.    FIND OUT MORE ABOUT DON, SCOTT AND TRAIL RUNNER NATION: Website - https://trailrunnernation.com/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/WeAreNation Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/trailrunnernation/  Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TrailRunnerNation/ All TRN episodes - https://trailrunnernation.com/category/podcasts/    YOU CAN FIND ME, FLORIS GIERMAN HERE:  Personal Best Program: https://www.pbprogram.com/ Podcast: https://extramilest.com/podcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FlorisGierman  Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/1329785 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/florisgierman Website: https://extramilest.com Website: https://pathprojects.com Subscribe to my weekly running newsletter: https://extramilest.com/subscribe/   LINKS AND TOOLS MENTIONED: Trail Runner Nation https://trailrunnernation.com/ Born to Run (book) by Christopher McDougall https://amzn.to/3ZTHWdF Extramilest Show #59 - Coach Jimmy Dean  http://bit.ly/42cuVxn Atomic Habits (book) by James Clear https://amzn.to/3ZOeUw2 Vibram 5 Fingers https://amzn.to/3FtpAYL Tahoe 200 http://bit.ly/3LqjgFo Bigfoot 200 http://bit.ly/3Tj1W74 Cocadona 250 https://cocodona.com/   Affiliate Disclosure: I may earn commissions if you purchase items via my affiliate links. "As an affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases.” Affiliate links do not increase cost to you. Also, you do not need to use these links. You can also search for these same items on any search engine/shopping site of your choice and buy/research them that way.   ABOUT THE EXTRAMILEST SHOW: A podcast and YouTube channel where host Floris Gierman interviews world class athletes, coaches and health experts on the topic of how to become a stronger, healthier and happier athlete. More info about our running coaching program can be found at https://www.pbprogram.com.   Subscribe and hit the bell to see new videos: https://bit.ly/Flo-YT