Doc Searls and Katherine Druckman talk with Michael "Hoff" Hoffman, Co-founder and CEO of IQXR, about differences between virtual, augmented, and mixed reality, challenges holding back widespread VR/AR, privacy concerns around augmented & virtual reality glasses, AI's role in spatial computing, and the mission to drive adoption of open standards and interoperability.

Open source expert Doc Searls discusses the challenges faced by open source companies as they grow, including Red Hat's source code distribution changes and the formation of the Open Enterprise Linux Association. The podcast also covers the control exerted by companies over open source projects, the shift towards 'source available' licenses, concerns about AI-generated code, Apple's support for right-to-repair, and the issues with USB-C cables and McDonald's ice cream machines.

Tony Zeoli, founder of NetMix and creator of a radio station WordPress plugin, discusses internet radio, licensing issues, and the future of local radio stations. The podcast also explores the use of creative commons music in podcasts and the challenges faced by underfunded college radio stations.