DJ Shadow, a legend in the music industry, discusses the importance of vibe in music, explores Olivier Messian's work for Onsmartino and the Troughtonium, reflects on the relationship between music popularity and value, and talks about making music with sampled material and the MPC. They also discuss the importance of physical records in the digital age, preserving the integrity of a podcast conversation, nostalgia and changing times, and express gratitude towards DJ Shadow and the listeners as the last episode of the year.

In 1996, Josh Davis, aka DJ Shadow, released his first album, Endtroducing. It’s been hailed pretty much universally as one of the best albums of the 90s, and Time Magazine included in its top 100 Albums of all time. It changed hip-hop and electronic music, and helped define the trip-hop genre. Now, for the 20th anniversary of the release, DJ Shadow breaks down the song "Mutual Slump." songexploder.net/dj-shadow