Dimitar Bechev is a senior fellow at Carnegie Europe focusing on EU enlargement and Eastern Europe, while Thomas de Waal specializes in the Caucasus region. They dive into the geopolitical dynamics of Georgia and Moldova, emphasizing Russia's growing influence and the complexities of Moldova's energy crisis. The discussion also covers the EU's enlargement strategy, exploring how external factors, including US politics, affect regional stability and the EU's role in countering Russian tactics in the Black Sea.