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Dianne Penn
Senior product leader at Anthropic focused on Claude model development and productization, including Opus 4.5; works at the intersection of research, product, and safety to bring model capabilities to users.
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Dec 2, 2025
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Ep 77: Anthropic’s Dianne Na Penn on Opus 4.5, Rethinking Model Scaffolding & Safety as a Competitive Advantage
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Dianne Na Penn, a senior product leader at Anthropic, dives into the intriguing launch of Opus 4.5, highlighting its capabilities and strategic focus. She discusses the shift from traditional AI benchmarks to more open-ended evaluations. Dianne shares how Anthropic balances user feedback with ambitious development plans, enhancing enterprise applications. She emphasizes the importance of model alignment and authenticity in fostering independent thinking. The conversation also touches on the evolution of AI scaffolding and the potential for transformative long-running intelligence in the near future.
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