Diana Walsh Pasulka, a classicist and author specializing in UFO phenomena, joins Colonel Karl Nell, a former UAP task force representative, for a riveting discussion. They dive into the fascinating parallels between UFOs and religious experiences, exploring angels and ancient philosophies. The conversation also touches on the government's secrecy surrounding UFOs, historical religious contexts, and the implications of extraterrestrial encounters on morality and spirituality. Their insights challenge modern beliefs and invite a profound reevaluation of our existence.

Guests like James Fox, Bryce Zabel, and Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka discuss interesting topics such as the evolution of humans and close encounters, the complicated relationship between UFO experiences and media portrayal, and coincidences and synchronicities in UFO research. The speakers also reflect on the impact of COVID-19 and share their excitement for meeting someone at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.

In this episode, I’m bringing you an interview with one of my personal heroes, Dr. Diana Walsh Paslka. Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka is a professor of religious studies and Chair of the Department of Philosophy and Religion at the University of North Carolina, Wilmington. She holds a bachelor’s from UC Davis, a master’s from Berkeley, and a Ph.D. from Syracuse University. She is the author of Heaven Can Wait: Purgatory in Catholic Devotional and Popular Culture and American Cosmic: UFOs, Religion, Technology, which we will be discussing in this interview.NEW Class from Dr. James MaddenUnidentified Flying Hyperobject: UFOs, Philosophy, and the End of the WorldFour-week online class via ZoomWednesdays, March 27 – April 24 (skips April 10), 20247 – 9 pm ETLearn More About the ClassSign Up NowLISTEN TO THESE EPISODES FIRSTIf you aren’t already familiar with Diana’s work, you’ll definitely want to start with these two episodes before listening to this interview to get the full context of our conversation.Ep 11: Nazis & UFOs [Pt. 1]: The Emergence Of UFO LoreEp 16: The Sky Calls To Us: The Occult Origins Of The Space RaceGET DR. DIANA WALSH PASULKA’S BOOKSAmerican Cosmic: UFO’s, Religion TechnologyHeaven Can Wait: Purgatory In Catholic Devotional And Popular CultureMENTIONED IN THE EPISODEThe Question Concerning Technology by Martin HeideggerWhat Is Called Thinking? by Martin HeideggerDiscourse On Thinking by Martin HeideggerI, Product by Jacques ValleeSociety of the Spectacle by Guy DubordRepublic by PlatoDr. James MaddenMarie Mutsuki Mockett2001: A Space OdysseyNopeBECOME A PATRONGET THE BOOKGet a SIGNED COPYGet it on AmazonFOLLOWWebsiteTwitterFacebookMUSICTheme: Cabinet of Curiosities by Shaun FrearsonTIMESTAMPS00:00:30 Intro00:05:03 How does a scholar of religion end up writing a book about UFOs? [Backstory of American Cosmic]00:10:57 Why the next big breakthrough in the space program will come from the field of religious studies.00:14:33 What can we learn from studying Tyler’s protocols?00:18:14 What should we make of the simplicity of Tyler’s protocols?00:22:43 What is Tyler communicating with?00:26:07 What’s going on in the space program?00:30:25 Civil religion & UFOs00:34:11 Having a front row seat to the birth of a myth/belief/religion00:38:15 Diana’s transition from UFO atheist to UFO agnostic00:43:39 “The Question Concerning Technology” by Martin Heidegger00:57:36 What does the Monolith in Stanley Kubrick’s 2001: A Space Odyssey tell us about the relationship between media and technology?01:04:39 Jordan Peele’s Nope and the relationship between media and belief01:08:32 Society of the Spectacle01:13:17 Plato’s Cave01:24:21 Plato’s Republic & the impossibility of justice01:26:45 Ontological shock & re-entering the cave01:29:34 The danger of Technology01:34:48 What to expect from Diana’s new bookBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-ufo-rabbit-hole-podcast--5746035/support.

Diana Walsh Pasulka is a professor of philosophy and religion at UNCW and author of American Cosmic: UFOs, Religion, and Technology. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – LMNT: https://drinkLMNT.com/lex to get free shipping – Grammarly: https://grammarly.com/lex to get 20% off premium – Business Wars: https://wondery.com/business-wars/ – Cash App: https://cash.app/ and use code LexPodcast to get $10 EPISODE LINKS: Diana’s Website: https://uncw.edu/par/faculty/faculty-pasulka.html American Cosmic (book): https://amzn.to/3aK2kaj PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (08:28) – What is real? (13:56) – Can beliefs become reality? (18:59) – Donald Hoffman (22:57) – Immanuel Kant’s Critique of Pure Reason (26:27) – Ayn Rand (33:25) – How do religions start? (48:38) – Religion is an evolutionary advantage (53:59) – Religion used in propaganda (58:32) – What did Nietzsche mean by “God is Dead”? (1:03:59) – American Cosmic (1:07:45) – What do aliens look like? (1:16:28) – History of space programs (1:19:30) – Jacques Vallee (1:28:55) – Artificial intelligence (1:34:25) – Ufology community (1:45:38) – Psychedelics (1:49:35) – Tic Tac UFO (1:58:09) – Roswell UFO incident (2:09:14) – Bob Lazar (2:12:50) – Monoliths in the desert (2:23:39) – Humans will co-evolve with AI (2:26:58) – Neuralink (2:31:48) – Singularity (2:41:39) – Books: Nietzsche (2:46:44) – Books: Hannah Arendt (2:51:43) – Fear of death (2:56:11) – Meaning of life

On this episode, the host introduces Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka, a professor of religious studies, who discusses her research on UFOs, religion, and technology. They explore topics like encounters with nonhuman intelligences, the Akashic record, the Order of the Dolphin, contrasting nature and city life, and encounters with scientists and the unknown. Plus, they discuss the benefits of becoming a plus member and upcoming events.

Discussion with Diana Walsh Pasulka on her new book 'Encounters' exploring encounters with non-human intelligences, influences of Plato's Cave on UFO perspectives, and philosophical dialogues on alien life, perception, and societal views.

Diana Walsh Pasulka, writer and professor of religious studies, discusses topics such as the fear surrounding unconventional ideas, encountering other realms of consciousness, perception management of UFOs, the importance of personal experiences, the Vatican archives, the mysterious Shroud of Turin, the intersection of religion and science, strange occurrences in space, the existence of evil, UFO phenomenon and communication with humans, the Rosicrucians and ancient books on angels.

Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka, professor of religious studies, discusses mind-boggling phenomena related to religion, UFOs, UAP, and consciousness. Topics include religious beliefs and practices, the significance of prayer, the nature of evil, possession and exorcisms, incorruptible bodies, levitation, discernment, signs and wonders, religious experiences and UFO phenomena, and speculation and secrecy surrounding the UFO phenomenon.

Diana Walsh Pasulka, Professor of Religious Studies and author of 'Encounters', discusses her journey, genuine encounters, working with big UFOlogy names, true Disclosure vs second coming, Vatican's UFO info, rituals before space launches, Greek/Roman Gods' existence, missing aspects in UFO research, and listener questions.

Religious studies professor Diana Walsh Pasulka discusses her transition from Catholic history to UFO research. She shares her encounter with a tech genius who claims to have extra sensory powers and their visit to a crash retrieval site in New Mexico. The chapter explores the initial skepticism towards a book, motives behind found cans, and the types of pieces discovered during crash retrieval.