In this engaging conversation, Devon Zuegel, founder of the Esmeralda Institute, shares her vision for creating a new town in California's wine country. She discusses how environments shape our behaviors and creativity, and the challenges of building vibrant communities. Drawing inspiration from her childhood experiences in Chautauqua, Devon emphasizes the importance of proximity for relationships and innovative urban design. She also tackles the financial hurdles of town-building and reflects on the potential for these transformative projects to foster collaboration and cultural values.

Devon Zuegel, a software engineer with a passion for urbanism and housing, discusses her vision for Esmeralda, a people-centered town blending TND and Chautauqua principles. They explore experimental urban planning, tech MVP model in neighborhoods, and the importance of individual agency in shaping communities.

Jan Sramek & Devon Zuegel discuss California Forever, a new city project in California. They cover challenges in current cities, raising $900M, push back faced, local politics, water management, and potential replication. Exploring urban development, governance risks, and tech industry involvement in city planning.