In this discussion, Devin DeLarder, an education professor at Belmont University, and Joy Sherrod, a discipleship pastor, join Esau McCaulley to explore Denzel Washington's recent baptism and newfound ministry calling. They delve into the pressures on celebrity Christians and question societal expectations of them. Also, Esau shares insights from his own experience with family estrangement, tackling the difficulties of honoring parents amidst severed ties. The conversation balances themes of faith, authenticity, and the challenges of celebrity influence.