Desimber Rose

Lisa Sharon Harper, founder of Freedom Road and author of "The Very Good Gospel," joins former pastor Desimber Rose, author of "The Church Can Go to Hell." They discuss the crucial distinction between non-racism and anti-racism, emphasizing the need for active engagement in dismantling systemic racism. Personal stories reveal the importance of understanding ancestry and privilege, while the conversation challenges listeners to acknowledge their roles in fostering social justice and building inclusive communities.