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Deborah Gist

Superintendent of Tulsa Public Schools. She previously served as the first state superintendent of education for Washington, D.C.

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Apr 15, 2025 • 45min

Living at Odds | 2. An Education in Opposition

Stacey Woolley, former PTA president and Tulsa School Board member, shares her journey from opposition to collaboration with Deborah Gist, Superintendent of Tulsa Public Schools. They discuss their rocky start and how the challenges of COVID-19 transformed their relationship. Insights into the ideological tensions in education reveal the importance of communication and understanding. Together, they illustrate how perseverance and empathy can lead to effective collaboration, even in a politically charged environment.