Deb Haaland

Deb Haaland, former U.S. Secretary of the Interior and current governor of New Mexico, and Rue Mapp, conservation activist and founder of Outdoor Afro, discuss the critical importance of national parks in shaping cultural identity. They emphasize the threats posed by recent legislation aiming to dismantle public lands, particularly for marginalized communities. The conversation includes the economic benefits of preserving these spaces and advocates for inclusivity in outdoor access, stressing the role of public lands in fostering community and resilience.

Sam Peterson, a former park ranger, shares his experience of being laid off during budget cuts and the impact on national parks. Marissa Ortega-Welch highlights the reliance on seasonal staff and safety concerns faced by parks. Deb Haaland discusses the critical role of national parks and the implications of staffing shortages on conservation efforts. The conversation delves into how these cuts could affect visitor experiences, park management, and the future of these treasured natural spaces.