Nina Power, a philosopher and writer known for her work on Plato, and DC Miller, a philosopher and editor focusing on Plato's societal influence, dive deep into the intricacies of Plato's Republic. They explore how philosophy navigates political repression and the connections between justice, truth, and madness. The conversation includes the impact of wealth on philosophical pursuits, the accessibility of philosophy, and the interplay between physical training and intellectual resilience. Their insights reveal the tension between societal roles and the courage required to pursue genuine inquiry.